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Post by andyr on May 6, 2014 13:24:20 GMT
Hi all
I have slime in my dirt bike tyres but these are tubed and unbalanced, do any of you use slime in your road bikes?
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titus
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Post by titus on May 6, 2014 14:44:17 GMT
I had new tyres fitted at 2WS and puncture safe in the tyres put in by them  |
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Post by nickw on May 6, 2014 19:49:41 GMT
I use puncture seal all the time.... Have done for many years....
It can prevent sudden deflation and will generally allow you to finish your ride.
If you use it, always advise tyre fitter at time of tyre changes so they can put some protective specs on for it spurting when they break the bead.
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Post by titus on May 6, 2014 20:09:40 GMT
I use puncture seal all the time.... Have done for many years.... It can prevent sudden deflation and will generally allow you to finish your ride. If you use it, always advise tyre fitter at time of tyre changes so they can put some protective specs on for it spurting when they break the bead. Ooh- Err Nicholas .. naughty fnarr fnarr . |
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Post by nickw on May 6, 2014 21:16:06 GMT
I use puncture seal all the time.... Have done for many years.... It can prevent sudden deflation and will generally allow you to finish your ride. If you use it, always advise tyre fitter at time of tyre changes so they can put some protective specs on for it spurting when they break the bead. Ooh- Err Nicholas .. naughty fnarr fnarr .  Just re-read that one  |
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on May 7, 2014 16:49:57 GMT
There's always good with the bad. Bare in mind that there's a possibility it may mask the initial damage done by sealing quickly leaving you with no idea that your tyre has something embedded into it. Until one day you're doing "some" miles an hour, subsequent rotations of the wheel damaging the tyre further, aaaaand finally the tyre fails. Dunlop warn against using it because "Reliance upon sealants can result in sudden tyre failure and accident". Just something to bare in mind! One of those puncture plug kits with the little canisters of air thrown under the seat might be a better option, that way you're aware and can get to a garage to get it properly sorted  |
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Post by titus on May 7, 2014 17:56:17 GMT
Its very rare a motorcycle tyre actually blows out, suppose there are two trains of thought though |
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Post by nickw on May 7, 2014 19:37:53 GMT
There's always good with the bad. Bare in mind that there's a possibility it may mask the initial damage done by sealing quickly leaving you with no idea that your tyre has something embedded into it. Until one day you're doing "some" miles an hour, subsequent rotations of the wheel damaging the tyre further, aaaaand finally the tyre fails. Dunlop warn against using it because "Reliance upon sealants can result in sudden tyre failure and accident". Just something to bare in mind! One of those puncture plug kits with the little canisters of air thrown under the seat might be a better option, that way you're aware and can get to a garage to get it properly sorted When you do get a puncture, the puncture seal fills the hole and leaves a tell tale on your tyre. As I said, I use it to finish my days work and it gets me home, however, I'd be seeking to change the tyre as it's not just the rubber that punctures, it's the damage to the cords as well. Yes, Dunlop would advise against it as most people would continue to use the tyre until it wears out instead of buying a new one. I think I mentioned that I was at a National conference last August and there was a presentation from one of the top tyre technologists from Bridgestone. He uses it for the same purpose as I do.... |
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Post by Wheelnut on May 7, 2014 22:28:39 GMT
Can't use it in mine due to the pressure sensors. Mixed feelings about it tbh.
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on May 8, 2014 0:19:32 GMT
When you do get a puncture, the puncture seal fills the hole and leaves a tell tale on your tyre. As I said, I use it to finish my days work and it gets me home, however, I'd be seeking to change the tyre as it's not just the rubber that punctures, it's the damage to the cords as well. Yes, Dunlop would advise against it as most people would continue to use the tyre until it wears out instead of buying a new one. I think I mentioned that I was at a National conference last August and there was a presentation from one of the top tyre technologists from Bridgestone. He uses it for the same purpose as I do.... I was hoping I conveyed that between the lines. Don't stick it in and think that every little thing's gonna be alright (doo doo doo doo doo doo doo). If you don't inspect your tyres - which, let's be honest, we don't every time we throw a leg over - and there's not a significant loss of air when you initially get back on the bike after a brew, you might not know there's something lodged in until it's eaten away a bigger hole, 'causing a problem that no amount of slime can fix... Or worse. Just lookin' at both sides of the coin, not saying it's bad stuff (having never tried it, I couldn't), buuuut I'd still rather go with the plug kit, just for peace of mind. I wonder what an insurance company would say in the event of an accident were you riding with a tyre that's been fixed with the stuff Any bloody excuse not to pay out, knowing them! |
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Post by nikkie on May 8, 2014 13:56:27 GMT
I had it in mine. Got a puncture and all that happened was my tyre deflated n spat the blue slime stuff out. It never plugged the hole like it should of. Hence, now - since having a new tyre fitted I have not put it back in. It was put in correctly by Crofton Court to not a DIY job. :0))
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Post by nickw on May 8, 2014 17:57:25 GMT
The puncture seal normally seals the leak as the tyre is rotating at a reasonable rate which forces the sealant into the hole. I had it on a previous career bike (all bikes had it in) and because it was picked up at slow speed it deflated but still got me back to the office.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 18:56:48 GMT
The puncture seal normally seals the leak as the tyre is rotating at a reasonable rate which forces the sealant into the hole. I had it on a previous career bike (all bikes had it in) and because it was picked up at slow speed it deflated but still got me back to the office. Sounds like the old egg in a radiator trick - that doesn't work either most of the time and gunges the engine water system up, it's no more than a bodge - bish bash bosh. |
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Post by nickw on May 8, 2014 19:17:40 GMT
The puncture seal normally seals the leak as the tyre is rotating at a reasonable rate which forces the sealant into the hole. I had it on a previous career bike (all bikes had it in) and because it was picked up at slow speed it deflated but still got me back to the office. Sounds like the old egg in a radiator trick - that doesn't work either most of the time and gunges the engine water system up, it's no more yhan a bodge - bish bash bosh. But I wouldn't put an egg in my radiator because it doesn't say on the egg box to do that as part of the directions for use, however, puncture seal actually says on the bottle... Suitable for use in tyres as a puncture prevention treatment.... Or words to that effect. What I should have also added to the last post was that the puncture seal has actually worked for me on several occasions, allowed me to finish my day working and then got me home, left me a nice blue tell tale on the tyre to identify the puncture allowing me to get it fixed when it's convenient, whereas it's only failed to seal a puncture once, and that was because it was picked up at low speed and didn't have enough force to push the sealant into the hole. I hope that helps in clarification. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 19:34:23 GMT
AA advice :-
Pre-puncture sealants
These are injected through the tyre valve as a preventative measure. The aim is to prevent air loss if a puncture does occur so you can drive on without interruption.
If the sealant works then the seal will be pretty much instantaneous after the tyre has been punctured. This raises the concern that you will have no idea whether there's been a puncture or not. A large screw or nail in the tread of the tyre will cause further damage over time and could lead to more catastrophic failure.
I hope this advice from a very knowledgeable and well respected body will help decision making, as to whether to use this product, especially on a vehicle with only two wheels which is comparably inherently unstable.
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Post by nickw on May 8, 2014 19:41:07 GMT
The puncture seal leaves a tell tale on the tyre.
If you check your tyres on a regular basis then you'll see the tell tale.
Strange that the AA would pass that advice out when in essence the puncture prevention system could actually assist by not having a sudden deflation when you're mid bend.
I don't advocate, and never have advocated that the puncture shouldn't be dealt with. I don't plug, I change the tyre, and I know it's been punctured because of the blue blob on it.
I think I also mentioned that used under these conditions was supported by a senior tyre technician from Bridgestone.
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Post by Wheelnut on May 8, 2014 20:16:51 GMT
... with only two wheels which is comparably inherently unstable. Yours might be  Horses for courses. I can see Nick's POV. This is coming from someone who's had a sudden deflation of the back tyre at speed on a long sweeping downhill left hander. It can't go in mine due to the pressure sensors. I therefore carry a bmw assist card instead. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 20:47:12 GMT
... with only two wheels which is comparably inherently unstable. Yours might be Horses for courses. I can see Nick's POV. This is coming from someone who's had a sudden deflation of the back tyre at speed on a long sweeping downhill left hander. It can't go in mine due to the pressure sensors. I therefore carry a bmw assist card instead. He probably got his puncture after "making progress" on road debris strewn cross hatched marked advanced driver overtaking opportunities. |
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Post by Wheelnut on May 8, 2014 20:55:41 GMT
He probably got his puncture after "making progress" on road debris strewn cross hatched marked advanced driver overtaking opportunities. Ohhh - touche  Funnily enough no - it was going down the bank to kinlochleven in scotlandshire. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 21:01:03 GMT
good craic. |
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