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Post by scratchnsniff24 on Aug 26, 2014 15:01:29 GMT
Found this place that does caliper rebuild/refurbishments, but they're all the way in Sheffield. My rear brakes been dicky for a while and it could really do with a good going over. Does anybody know of somewhere local that does it? Can't imagine the postage will be cheap!
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Post by hornut on Aug 26, 2014 16:27:16 GMT
Rik, I know you always post that you are mechanically inept, but if you could learn a few basics my friend, you would save your self a few bob. So, remember that prom ride we did? And remember that garage on the 66 we went to for a brew. Well, I'm sure you can go there for a small fee, use their equipment and get some free help and advice from the resident mechanic. Just a thought mate
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on Aug 26, 2014 18:08:04 GMT
I'd love to have a stab at this, but I've got a remarkably short tempter (I blame the red hair), and brakes are one of those things that just seems out of my league. Simple things I'd probably have a go at, or aesthetic stuff, but brakes and engines I'm scared of There's a fantastic channel on YouTube called Moonfleet41 AKA Delboy's Garage, that's gone some way in expanding my knowledge base, and he's got a great video up of exactly this job (albeit on a bandit not a stupid Italian pain in the arse Aprilia). The only problem is I've had a lot of time off recently with my kidneys, and I need to get this done asap before I go back to work, with the bike being my only form of transport. Money's in drastically short supply and if I bugger something up I'm not going to be able to afford to get it righted. Need a chain and sprockets, and a new rear tyre, too. So everything's adding up, but there's nothing coming in to fund any of these jobs. If the general consensus is that this is a DIY-able job, even for a nugget like myself, I'll probably have a stab at it. It didn't look difficult by any means, but these jobs often don't... Until you shag 'em up
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Post by hornut on Aug 26, 2014 20:58:13 GMT
I would try just getting the calliper moving freely before spending on a refurb. Quite an easy job me thinks, to remove calliper away from disk and try and free off. If wont free off, then maybe a refurb. Again I dont think very difficult to do - maybe just new seals and pots?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 22:34:05 GMT
Pads out
Caliper off but leave it attached to the brake pipe
Real good clean with a toothbrush & wd40 getting it well round the piston. (Make it good clean)
Spray liberally with brake cleaner to remove WD40
SLOWLY pump out the piston SLIGHTLY by pressing the brake and re-clean. (If the piston pulls out the rubber seal its refurb time)
If you have some apply a small amount of red caliper grease to the piston and push back in.
Refit.
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on Aug 27, 2014 0:49:56 GMT
I'm fairly confident they're far enough gone to warrant a rebuild, they're almost 30k old so they could do with doing regardless. However, having just checked my chain earlier, I'm prioritising that replacement before I see to the brake, which'll have to wait for the next payslip. Assuming I don't get a tire first... The joys of being on the sick, ey? NHS FTW Could still do with recommendations, because this will inevitably need doing, and there's no guarantee (not much chance) I'll be able to fathom it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 5:58:10 GMT
Rik, if you can make it over to mine today I'll show you how mate. I'll make the cuppa you bring the biscuits.
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Post by iconic944ss on Aug 27, 2014 13:03:59 GMT
I have a feeling the rear caliper will the type that slides on pins and has a single piston.
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on Aug 27, 2014 13:15:52 GMT
Rik, if you can make it over to mine today I'll show you how mate. I'll make the cuppa you bring the biscuits. Terry, I would but I don't have the seals or any of the replacement bits. It's looking like it'll be at least a month until I have the funds together If your generosity extends to an unforeseen date, hell, I'll bring cake! Riding it with that chain is probably a bad move, too. But that's due Friday-Monday! Progress! Woo! I have a feeling the rear caliper will the type that slides on pins and has a single piston. I believe it is a slide pin jobbie, but pretty sure it's a twinpot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 15:13:20 GMT
Cake is good Just don't tell Nikkie or she will eat it all
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Post by Lee on Aug 27, 2014 18:14:53 GMT
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Post by muzzasv on Aug 30, 2014 17:14:11 GMT
bring it round 1 weekend ill show you how to do it
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Post by zeddman on Aug 30, 2014 17:26:06 GMT
For your seals ,look on ebay for a cardiff company ....called scooters and bikes ,the seal prices there are a lot better than the dealers
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Post by Cafe Racer on Aug 30, 2014 19:13:41 GMT
Just done the rear brake on the Aprilia Mille, it can be a pig ! I found more success back bleeding it first a couple of times.You will need a syringe and a tube.When you do pump the pedal do it very fast but watch the fluid level. There are a lot of tips on the Aprilia/RSVR.NET forum.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 20:52:12 GMT
My RSV-R's rear brake feels the same when its clean and working as when its dirty and full of air.
For a Brembo unit its a pile of pants.
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on Aug 31, 2014 0:46:35 GMT
bring it round 1 weekend ill show you how to do it Had a couple offers now, I'll definitely be taking someone up on it when I get round to doing it. It's just a matter of having disposable income. Right now it's every penny for itself. For your seals ,look on ebay for a cardiff company ....called scooters and bikes ,the seal prices there are a lot better than the dealers £18 from PowerHouseAutomotive, it's the only place I could find that do them, and they seem like decent geezers when we exchanged emails. £39 for the kit + them to do the job, but it's a case of getting it there and back (probably at least another tenner in postage). Just done the rear brake on the Aprilia Mille, it can be a pig ! I found more success back bleeding it first a couple of times.You will need a syringe and a tube.When you do pump the pedal do it very fast but watch the fluid level. There are a lot of tips on the Aprilia/RSVR.NET forum. I don't know what that means I was just gonna pull the bugger off, yank it apart, and jam it back on.. maybe with braided lines but that's gonna be another £60 :\ They're a worthwhile (and popular to the Peg) mod, the fluid's needed a change for a good while, too. Makes sense to do it all at once, but I'm not sure yet, finances and whomever may be helping might not have the time etc. Do you use the Aprilia forum? I found it a bit of a bloody jumble. Still refer back to it now and again, but I never bothered to sign up because it was a bit higgledy piggledy. My RSV-R's rear brake feels the same when its clean and working as when its dirty and full of air. For a Brembo unit its a pile of pants. Read an MCN test the other day, it was my bike vs the equivalent BMW, and they praised the brakes as being a lot better even than the Beemers (does anyone refer to BMW bikes as Beemers? I've never heard the term applied to them before) with ABS. But they also said it's a twin piston.. Which links on nicely to..... I have a feeling the rear caliper will the type that slides on pins and has a single piston. You were right, mate. We took the wheel off to fit the sprockets yesterday (couldn't, do so, all back together now) and they were, indeed, singles. But EVERYWHERE I've read has said they're twin pots, even the bloke who works at the brake refurb place. So, I don't know how, but you're right Well played *tips hat* +1 brew for you!
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Post by Cafe Racer on Aug 31, 2014 6:28:04 GMT
My RSV-R's rear brake feels the same when its clean and working as when its dirty and full of air. For a Brembo unit its a pile of pants. True,but the front brakes are that good and with engine braking being a twin i very rarely use the rear.
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Post by iconic944ss on Aug 31, 2014 16:01:31 GMT
Dont worry, I'm happy you are getting the bike sorted. The twin piston Brembo's on the back of most of my bikes are barely better but, to tell the truth as long as it will hold the bike for a hill start or be used for fine control ok, then I'm happy - think positive at least its hard for you to lock the back up
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on Aug 31, 2014 18:40:22 GMT
Dont worry, I'm happy you are getting the bike sorted. The twin piston Brembo's on the back of most of my bikes are barely better but, to tell the truth as long as it will hold the bike for a hill start or be used for fine control ok, then I'm happy - think positive at least its hard for you to lock the back up This is the problem, I don't think there's a massive amount of feel in the brakes, and I've heard that's what braided lines are for. I'm not so interested in outright power but more feel's always a good thing. They might be good enough with just fresh fluid and a change of pads, but the lines are well worn and I might as well replace them. Have any of your Aprilia guys got/tried braided lines on your bikes?
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