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Post by David on Feb 8, 2016 11:51:45 GMT
Created this on the back of another topic and merge, apologies if the thread is very jumpy but advice given on DIY set up can be found here
Thanks
Chris (Admin)The 2 Videos at the bottom of this link show how to set up Front & Rear SAG. www.alphasuspensionset-up.co.uk/On-Line-Set-Up.html
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Post by David on Feb 9, 2016 12:03:08 GMT
Alpha Suspension say, "I Inspect and adjust SAG / pre load, rebound damping, compression damping for front suspension and rear suspension".
For Street Riding, Alpha suggest the Front SAG is 35 - 43mm & Rear SAG 30 - 38mm.
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Post by David on Feb 9, 2016 12:32:48 GMT
The ride is set for the bloke who owned it before me, and he was much much bigger than me therefore I need my suspension setting up. I would fettle this myself if it was all standard but the for springs have been changed for Ohlins so I want to take it to an expert. Are the Ohlins springs Progressive or Linear & what is the load setting. |
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Post by Simondo on Feb 9, 2016 12:37:31 GMT
I didn't get any details, spring weights or anything with it, he's going to send me the receipt when he finds it, all I know is they are hard
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Post by David on Feb 9, 2016 12:57:57 GMT
I didn't get any details, spring weights or anything with it, all I know is they are hard. Is the Front Suspension Spring Pre-load adjusted to it's minimum (soft), if so & the Forks are still too hard then the springs may need to be changed. mybikemanuals.com/honda/honda-vt-owners-manuals/ |
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Post by nickw on Feb 9, 2016 16:37:12 GMT
Be cautious of just tinkering Or letting someone else do so Si... When you have numerous adjustments I think it's always best to get sorted with someone who has extensive knowledge and a proven record.
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Post by David on Feb 9, 2016 17:07:16 GMT
The Owner's Manual gives the Standard Settings for F&R Spring Pre-Load & Damping.
Suspension set-up is a personal choice, put it back to the Standard Settings (inc. Fork Springs) & go from there.
I'm sure Honda know what they are doing with their R&D.
Are you looking for a Road Use set-up of trying to win the 2016 MotoGP.
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Post by Simondo on Feb 9, 2016 18:35:57 GMT
Putting it back to stock will be a step backwards, especially given the fact that it has been changed, so the stock setting will be different anyway
The biggest complaint for this bike (other than fuel economy) is the front suspension being too soft, and the rear being too hard
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Post by David on Feb 9, 2016 18:48:01 GMT
I didn't get any details, spring weights or anything with it, all I know is they are hard. The biggest complaint for this bike (other than fuel economy) is the front suspension being too soft, and the rear being too hard. Is the Front End too hard or too soft. |
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Post by Simondo on Feb 9, 2016 19:18:05 GMT
It's too hard, which makes your suggestion of putting suspension settings back to standard a bit daft, because its already been stiffened right up, so stock settings (preload especially) don't apply
The other thing I don't know is if the suspension has been re valved for a wider range of rebound adjustment.
All of this means that I'm going to be better off handing over £30 to someone who knows their stuff rather than pissing about with it myself
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Post by David on Feb 9, 2016 20:27:25 GMT
It's too hard, which makes your suggestion of putting suspension settings back to standard a bit daft, because its already been stiffened right up, so stock settings (preload especially) don't apply. In standard trim, it's too soft, now it's too hard, surely reducing the pre-load will soften the suspension, that's what Honda say, they may be wrong. The other thing I don't know is if the suspension has been re valved for a wider range of rebound adjustment. Is the Fork Oil the correct grade & quantity. |
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Post by David on Feb 10, 2016 11:02:32 GMT
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Post by Simondo on Feb 10, 2016 13:31:23 GMT
It's too hard, which makes your suggestion of putting suspension settings back to standard a bit daft, because its already been stiffened right up, so stock settings (preload especially) don't apply. In standard trim, it's too soft, now it's too hard, surely reducing the pre-load will soften the suspension, that's what Honda say, they may be wrong. The other thing I don't know is if the suspension has been re valved for a wider range of rebound adjustment. Is the Fork Oil the correct grade & quantity. Well reducing the preload is obviously going to soften the suspension. |
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Post by David on Feb 10, 2016 14:19:07 GMT
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Post by Wheelnut on Feb 11, 2016 22:33:40 GMT
What Nick says Si - Pay tbe money and take it to a man.
Fwiw the front suspension on the xt is way too soft - must get round to doing something about it ....
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Post by titus on Feb 12, 2016 18:30:09 GMT
What Nick says Si - Pay tbe money and take it to a man. Fwiw the front suspension on the xt is way too soft - must get round to doing something about it .... Nice to hear you are still alive Andy  |
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Post by David on Feb 9, 2017 10:12:51 GMT
Bob's Bike doesn't have any front or rear rebound adjustment. Fitting an emulator would be required to make any adjustments to the front rebound.  Hagon do these rear shocks with damping adjustment.  |
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Post by speedwearuk on Feb 17, 2017 11:37:20 GMT
I think this is awesome way to set suspension.
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Post by David on Feb 17, 2017 11:49:44 GMT
I think this is awesome way to set suspension. Would you DIY or get a man in. |
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Post by David on Mar 2, 2017 9:06:14 GMT
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