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Post by tiffyclint on Sept 1, 2009 7:04:27 GMT
This is my third brand new bike and the previous twoo were run in gospel as per the manufacturers guidlines. However, Ive been told so many times that modern engines dont need running in cos they are already done so on the factory test bed thats its really not needed, so why ask you to run it in.
Yet again Ive been asked to keep the bike below 6900 RPM for the first 500 mile and below 8300 RPM for the next 500 mile and to not over rev for prolonged periods. The bike also needs an oil change at 600 mile.
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated from some of you veteran bikers out there............
Cheers,
Clint
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Post by desmodave on Sept 1, 2009 7:49:14 GMT
Hi Clint, I hear the manufacturer's run them in but I can't imagine them spending the time and fuel to put a thousand miles on every bike/engine they send out the door ! I've had 2 new Honda's and ran them in a per the makers recommendations, if its not needed why do they ask you to do it ? Must admit its a lesson in discipline but what a treat after that first service..yeehaa ! Dave.
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Post by desmodave on Sept 1, 2009 7:50:49 GMT
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated from some of you veteran bikers out there............ Oh no, just realised......replying to this must make me a veteran...  |
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Post by tiffyclint on Sept 1, 2009 8:10:13 GMT
pmsl. veteran doesnt always mean old!!! Experienced is the word I should have used then i guess :-) and thanks for the reply, i intend following the manufcturers guidlines but just wanted some feedback from maybe those who havent run a bike in and what problems developed if any.............
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Post by Lee on Sept 1, 2009 8:27:27 GMT
according to the bike mags you dont. However, all new engines need to bed in properly and bits of excess metal will come away. The rev guidelines you have posted look quite liberal. I would say to follow them generally but to give it the odd squirt. If you run it in too softly you might end up with polished bores and then it will drink oil. like i say, play it by the rules but with the odd bit of stick. Try and get 200 miles on it first though. Oh and a 300 mile oil and filter change done at home on the quiet wont hurt it either. Use mineral oil for the first change. Not semi or fully synthetic.
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Post by retrocraig on Sept 1, 2009 9:07:38 GMT
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Post by tiffyclint on Sept 1, 2009 21:17:35 GMT
very, very interesting...................although I done nearly 200 mile today and certainly blipped it higher than the makers guidlines, so bike now run-in eh!  Cheers, Clint |
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Post by johndc on Apr 9, 2014 18:46:38 GMT
A thread from 4 1/2 years ago, bl**dy hell, nowt better to do D Kev? Didn't see Clints earlier post. |
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Post by Betty Swallox on Apr 9, 2014 18:47:48 GMT
I cannot believe you two would resurrect a thread in this disgusting manner, shame on you both!!
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Post by titus on Apr 9, 2014 19:27:54 GMT
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Post by Betty Swallox on Apr 9, 2014 19:49:17 GMT
Resurrection. ..its the future Betty Old Fruit It is like garlic bread Kev?? |
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on Apr 10, 2014 2:01:55 GMT
Anyone tried the hard break-in technique?
Heard a lot of good things about it and always wondered how much was legit. Mostly by-the-by since I probably won't buy a brand new bike again.. But it's good info to know!
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Post by titus on Apr 10, 2014 7:06:03 GMT
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Post by Wheelnut on Apr 10, 2014 9:10:52 GMT
Anyone tried the hard break-in technique? Heard a lot of good things about it and always wondered how much was legit. Mostly by-the-by since I probably won't buy a brand new bike again.. But it's good info to know! It does make some sense, and there are a lot of people swear by that method. but...the manufacturers put a lot of time and R & D in the bikes - it makes sense that they should know how best to run them in. I think the worst thing you can do when running them in is keep the revs constant or labour the engine. I also think when you get a new car the 5 miles it's got on the clock will have been the hardest miles the car will ever have!  |
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Post by scratchnsniff24 on Apr 10, 2014 16:40:22 GMT
It does make some sense, and there are a lot of people swear by that method. but...the manufacturers put a lot of time and R & D in the bikes - it makes sense that they should know how best to run them in. I think the worst thing you can do when running them in is keep the revs constant or labour the engine. I also think when you get a new car the 5 miles it's got on the clock will have been the hardest miles the car will ever have! I suspect that's all pretty correct! I'd be interested to see a legitimate trusted comparison of two identical engines with different methods. Just out of curiosity. |
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Post by Wheelnut on Apr 10, 2014 17:59:43 GMT
I suspect that's all pretty correct! I'd be interested to see a legitimate trusted comparison of two identical engines with different methods. Just out of curiosity. I think even then it would be difficult to say. As an aside every B*W I've had has used quite a lot of oil for the first 10-12k and then settled into using hardly any for the next 30k or so. This is my fourth and they've all behaved the same. |
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Post by Joe King on Apr 11, 2014 10:40:21 GMT
While I sing the praises of my little Chinese 125cc, I certainly wouldn't have deviated from the manufacturers running-in and servicing guidelines. They're not THAT good. Yet. And the last thing you want to do is invalidate that valuable warranty!
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