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Post by ZX6-Chris on Mar 25, 2014 11:18:33 GMT
Right I have loan my optimate out the other week to find the person has misplaced it,. here is covering the cost of it but in the mean time my battery has got to the point where it could well be goosed. got the bike started this morning traveled 15 miles turn bike off, and checked to see if it would start again and all i get was clicking from starter motor. i hopefully will have my new optimizer today and will be able to say the battery is ok shortly  while looking at batteries i have noticed they do a li-on battery. now a quick read up stats overall they are a good batterry,. but the big and only disadvantage is they are a poor performing battery in cold weather. so after all of this whats the pros and cons off the 3 batteries.
AcidGelLi-onProsLight Weight. Quick Charging. No maintance needed.  consPoor Performing in sub-zero temps (Poor all year round battery). Fast Discharge rate |
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Post by chrism on Mar 25, 2014 11:42:32 GMT
If the Li-on batteries are anything like the ones used with remote control stuff (LiPo I think) you have to be careful when charging them and extra careful not to short them as when they go up in flames they usually dont stop. Also it appears you might have to very ontop of how you treat the battery in terms of charging it and keeping it charged. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#SafetyFrom what I gather acid batteries are the best if you are lazy with the charging routine and can be recovered easily, I've never really liked Gel and I think if you let them go flat they cant be recovered very well, Li-on are super light weight but you have to keep on top of them and you also might need a compatible charger. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 19:07:14 GMT
The main benefit of lithium ion or polymer batteries is that the manufacturer can shape them. Ideal for mobile phones.
While I was in the IOM my battery died and I had to buy one from a bloke who fettled race bikes. He recommended gel and I havnt had a problem since, even over the winter and my heated grips have a habit of completely draining my battery.
Whatever your choice I think a quality optimate makes all the difference.
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Post by David on Mar 25, 2014 20:05:22 GMT
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Post by Hitman on Mar 25, 2014 20:50:06 GMT
Chris my preference would be to choose the same type the bike was supplied with due to the design charging characteristics, it should then give you a lot more years.
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Post by Lee on Mar 30, 2014 6:53:50 GMT
I've tried a few makes, I now go for the standard yuasa model specific to the bike
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Post by 200magicnumba on Mar 30, 2014 13:55:54 GMT
I've tried a few makes, I now go for the standard yuasa model specific to the bike DITTO Swap makes of battery`s, its your choice to find what suits your pocket and quality, But you cannot swap from gel to wet acid as they have totally different charging systems and rates. Bikes are manufactured with their set charging system for the appropiate battery. Li-on battery`s are expensive and will swap onto Gel battery`d bikes. They`re more designed for track bikes where weight saving is a must or projects where space is tight, they can even be mounted upsidedown. But cold affects them (allegedly). I once was going to buy one for my bike, it was cylinder shaped and came with a lightweight foam insert to put into battery box then insert the cylinder battery into it. But I`ve added 2 extra power drains on my battery so stuck to a decent quality but original battery. If you decide to get the expensive li-on battery let us know how it works out.  |
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Post by ZX6-Chris on Mar 31, 2014 10:14:33 GMT
well quick update for my battery is i charged it for 24-28 hours on an optimate and that battery seems to be working fine. left bike from Thursday till Sunday without charge and it started first time,. and again today start first push of the button. so new battery isn't needed yet,. but i will continue with my research on this and if/when i decide to get one ill write up a review. A Few bits from batterystuff.com webiste. This battery weighs in at only 1.83 pounds and offers an incredible 210 C.C.A. This is a drop in replacement for your Lead-acid battery, and will require no change to your stock charging system. this was selected for my bike specifically. although will e-mail and see if they can confirm as it list alot of other bikes with. customer reviews seems to give alot of positive comments towards the LifePO4 Battery. comment from one guy which was helpful. "In extreme cold weather, this battery goes into a sleep state and needs to be "woken up". You crank your bike and it sounds like the battery is almost dead. This wakes up the battery. Wait a few seconds and crank your bike and it starts right up. This is the opposite behavior of a conventional lead acid battery. weird, but kinda cool too." This was a disadvantage comment "I am concerned that this battery won't give me any warning signs when it's about to die. The nature of a lithium ion battery is to put out 100% up until the moment it goes to 0%. I hope this battery gives me a heads-up that it needs to be replaced somehow." |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 14:35:37 GMT
As Lee said, I've only bought Yuasa batteries and they seem to work and last longer than any other.
Li-on has too many disadvantages at the moment especially the cost.
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Post by David on Nov 17, 2016 14:53:14 GMT
My preference would be to choose the same type the bike was supplied with due to the design charging characteristics. The OEM battery for my RT is an Exide GEL type. Been speaking to MDS Battery Ltd & they offer a Yuasa AGM alternative for £50. Whilst the Exide (GEL) battery is still available, I'd certainly be tempted to switch to the Yuasa AGM as it's half the price. The guy at MDS said that it wouldn't cause any problems changing from GEL to AGM. www.mdsbattery.co.uk/shop/productprofile.asp?ProductGroupID=9079 |
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Post by David on Nov 19, 2016 8:51:36 GMT
How to Fill and Charge Yuasa Motorcycle Battery.
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Post by Lee on Nov 19, 2016 9:41:48 GMT
About two years ago, I replaced the battery on my old blade. As usual, I was in a rush and needed it yesterday.
Whenever I fit a battery, I always either put a sticker on the new battery or scratch on the date it was fitted.
The YUASA that had failed, was dated 2009. It had lasted 5 years.
A new battery (Not YUASA) was fitted. As usual I dated it (2014) and away I went.
The old blade lives out on the IOM now and is purely there for emergencies or for trips with a pillion.
This year during TT, Terry's bike developed a clutch fault. I loaned him the blade and he continued his holiday.
Terry reported however, that the bike was struggling to start after being ridden with the lights on. He'd managed for the few days he'd ridden the bike, by keeping the lights off (then the bike started fine)
A quick check with a vault meter showed the battery was on its way out.
It had lasted 2 years, which is just dog shit.
I bought a new battery just before returning for the Manx GP. A regular lead acid jobbie, but a YUASA.
The battery was filled, left for an hour. The seal caps were fitted, then very slowly I turned the battery upside down twice to ensure all the plates were soaked.
The battery was then left to stand for 12 hours, before putting it on the optimate for 12 hours.
No problems since
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Post by David on Nov 19, 2016 9:53:51 GMT
About two years ago, I replaced the battery on my old blade. A new battery (Not YUASA) was fitted. It had lasted 2 years, which is just dog shit. What make was this battery, where did you buy it from & how much did it cost? Bob's bike has got a Blue Label battery on, cost about £20 from Infinity, it's now been in service for 5 years, it gets hammered with the lights on, plus heated kit. I bought a new battery, a regular lead acid jobbie, but a YUASA. Where from & how much? |
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Post by Lee on Nov 20, 2016 8:21:58 GMT
I bought it locally from one of our sponsors for about £30. I could of got a yuasa but was too impatient
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Post by David on Nov 20, 2016 9:06:25 GMT
I bought it locally from one of our sponsors for about £30. What make was the battery, from which sponsor. I could of got a Yuasa but was too impatient. Where did the Yuasa one come from. |
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Post by Lee on Nov 20, 2016 21:40:39 GMT
What are you David, the battery police ?
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