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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 10:49:11 GMT
 33 Years old & 37,000 miles. As I suggested earlier good old japanese quality. |
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David
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Post by David on Jul 17, 2014 10:49:21 GMT
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Post by David on Jul 17, 2014 10:58:35 GMT
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Post by David on Jul 17, 2014 11:15:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 11:26:50 GMT
Not a bad result considering the very poor financial backing for BMW, AC and Mercedes at the time from a truly open, democratic society  |
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Mainjetmike
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Post by Mainjetmike on Jul 17, 2014 16:38:03 GMT
I adjust or check chain every 200 miles
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David
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Post by David on Jul 17, 2014 16:49:07 GMT
I change the oil in the rear wheel (shaft)drive every 12,000 miles on the RT and every 6,000 miles on BOB's Bike.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 17:01:32 GMT
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Bigred
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Post by Bigred on Jul 20, 2014 17:40:01 GMT
In the first 4k miles of a brand new vehicle - probably yes. Not so much 'probably' as 'in your opinion based on your own singular experience'. We've had this debate before. The motorcycling press are of the opinion that yes, just like the 'Jap Crap' when it first came to our shores, there were issues with Chinese motorbikes, especially with the free-for-all way they were imported and assembled etc., but they are improving rapidly. As regards my own bike, I've never adjusted the chain (hence the post seeking advice) and it's coming close to it's 4k service (previous one was 2k, the distances are doubling each time, next one is 8k). I would assume that it's something that gets examined during the service(?). Maybe I should be asking the service agent if it was done last time and make sure that it is this time? I seriously think you need to learn how to check your chain tension and how to adjust it (should be in the owners manual). If you have not checked it in nearly 4000 miles then I am not suprised it has come off. I check the tension on mine every 200-250 miles, when I oil it. Not adjusting the chain can lead to it coming off due to being too slack and can also put extra strain on the chain when going from closed to open throttle as the motor takes up the chain slack. The occurence of either can lead to a nasty off if the chain jams in the wheel and causes it too lock up. Also snapped chains have a rather nasty whipping action which can bring tears to your eyes and worse. Stay safe bud. |
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Joe King
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Post by Joe King on Jul 21, 2014 8:12:19 GMT
Not so much 'probably' as 'in your opinion based on your own singular experience'. We've had this debate before. The motorcycling press are of the opinion that yes, just like the 'Jap Crap' when it first came to our shores, there were issues with Chinese motorbikes, especially with the free-for-all way they were imported and assembled etc., but they are improving rapidly. As regards my own bike, I've never adjusted the chain (hence the post seeking advice) and it's coming close to it's 4k service (previous one was 2k, the distances are doubling each time, next one is 8k). I would assume that it's something that gets examined during the service(?). Maybe I should be asking the service agent if it was done last time and make sure that it is this time? I seriously think you need to learn how to check your chain tension and how to adjust it (should be in the owners manual). If you have not checked it in nearly 4000 miles then I am not suprised it has come off. I check the tension on mine every 200-250 miles, when I oil it. Not adjusting the chain can lead to it coming off due to being too slack and can also put extra strain on the chain when going from closed to open throttle as the motor takes up the chain slack. The occurence of either can lead to a nasty off if the chain jams in the wheel and causes it too lock up. Also snapped chains have a rather nasty whipping action which can bring tears to your eyes and worse. Stay safe bud. Thanks for that, bigred. You make a solid case for me getting my hands dirty. Looks like it's time to purchase the Haynes manual and a big tub of Swarefega! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 9:09:43 GMT
I seriously think you need to learn how to check your chain tension and how to adjust it (should be in the owners manual). If you have not checked it in nearly 4000 miles then I am not suprised it has come off. I check the tension on mine every 200-250 miles, when I oil it. Not adjusting the chain can lead to it coming off due to being too slack and can also put extra strain on the chain when going from closed to open throttle as the motor takes up the chain slack. The occurence of either can lead to a nasty off if the chain jams in the wheel and causes it too lock up. Also snapped chains have a rather nasty whipping action which can bring tears to your eyes and worse. Stay safe bud. Thanks for that, bigred. You make a solid case for me getting my hands dirty. Looks like it's time to purchase the Haynes manual and a big tub of Swarefega! My honda came with a maintenance handbook, tightening a drive chain is simple it is all laid out in the handbook, i checked mine yesterday after your experience (didn't need adjustment with 35 mm of slack) All you need is a torque wrench with the correct sized socket for the spindle nut and a spanner for the adjusters and a ruler to measure the slack, takes five minutes literally. |
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David
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Post by David on Jul 21, 2014 9:18:38 GMT
The RAC/ACU Motorcycle Training Scheme included basic maintenance checks & adjustments.
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Joe King
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Post by Joe King on Jul 24, 2014 21:20:44 GMT
Problem sorted at my 4000km service but I'm going to invest in the Haynes manual, even though it may become a very expensive coaster, knowing me!
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Post by Lee on Jul 25, 2014 7:47:14 GMT
If you want to see it done, give me a shout. I'm only over in Ingleby and I'll happily spend half and hour over a brew showing you how it's done.
Just pm me if you wanna pop over
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nickw
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Post by nickw on Jul 25, 2014 19:31:11 GMT
The RAC/ACU Motorcycle Training Scheme included basic maintenance checks & adjustments. So does CBT now... |
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200magicnumba
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Post by 200magicnumba on Jul 25, 2014 19:45:37 GMT
Hey Joe, We have had this debate before, with yourself acting as president of the chinese bike association.
A fool learns by his misstakes.. a wise man learns by other peoples misstakes.
Honestly buddy, do not get offended by other peoples comments about different bikes etc, they`re just giving you their experience to try and educate you.
When jap bikes came to our shores many moons ago, they were dogged by british bike owners, for no other reason than naivety and no one could better their british bikes, my 1st experience with jap`s "rubbish bikes" was a single overhead cam cb750 f1.. what a bike. It topped 125mph, had no oil leaks and started every single time 1st kick. "british bikes, pah poppycock". theres only triumph hung in at it I thinks.
Chinese bikes, have no quality control, they`re down right dangerous. If I remember rightly the last debate summit fell off yours then your brake pivot seized and the bike was relatively new. My sons chinese field bike lasted about 6 months, spokes loosening, rims snapping, brakes seizing, kick start snapping, gear lever stripping the splines then again stripping splines on shaft this time, time to lose the bike. welded gear lever on and sold bike for 25pence or summit.
Read your new manual, understand it, you will end up a fully qualified bike fitter by the time you finish with chinese bikes.
You have been very lucky that the chain didn`t tangle up, locking the back wheel up, then throwing you off, I know you`ve had an off, and I know you know the hardships and the aftermath with them, be careful out there.
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